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		<title>By: Craig Morea</title>
		<link>http://blogkc.com/archives/2007/02/barnes-to-go-all-in/comment-page-1/#comment-149390</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Morea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I read the post implying that Des Moines, Iowa is some kind of ghost town, while K.C. is on the move, I was reminded of something I heard the other day. Please confirm: Isn&#039;t TransAmerica (which has their own building here) moving from downtown K.C. to Des Moines?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I read the post implying that Des Moines, Iowa is some kind of ghost town, while K.C. is on the move, I was reminded of something I heard the other day. Please confirm: Isn&#8217;t TransAmerica (which has their own building here) moving from downtown K.C. to Des Moines?</p>
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		<title>By: kiki</title>
		<link>http://blogkc.com/archives/2007/02/barnes-to-go-all-in/comment-page-1/#comment-148952</link>
		<dc:creator>kiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, it&#039;s been all over the KC Star&#039;s blog. Not in print mind you, because why they ever dare print something negative about Funkhouser?

Here&#039;s one link:
http://buzzblog.kcstar.com/?q=node/229</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, it&#8217;s been all over the KC Star&#8217;s blog. Not in print mind you, because why they ever dare print something negative about Funkhouser?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one link:<br />
<a href="http://buzzblog.kcstar.com/?q=node/229" rel="nofollow">http://buzzblog.kcstar.com/?q=node/229</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://blogkc.com/archives/2007/02/barnes-to-go-all-in/comment-page-1/#comment-148946</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kiki - do you have a link or source for the Funkhouser statement on school vouchers? I did not vote for either Funkhouser or Brooks, so I don&#039;t have an agenda other than trying to get information on the two finalists - if what you say is true, one would think the Brooks&#039; people would jump on that statement.  Brooks&#039; position seems to be that to eliminate crime, one must get to the root causes - one of which seems to be the public school system.

Of the two finalist, clearly Funkhouser has the edge and the momentum . . . Not to mention he is already talking about issues whereas Brooks seems content to make statements about how respectful the next month&#039;s campaign will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kiki &#8211; do you have a link or source for the Funkhouser statement on school vouchers? I did not vote for either Funkhouser or Brooks, so I don&#8217;t have an agenda other than trying to get information on the two finalists &#8211; if what you say is true, one would think the Brooks&#8217; people would jump on that statement.  Brooks&#8217; position seems to be that to eliminate crime, one must get to the root causes &#8211; one of which seems to be the public school system.</p>
<p>Of the two finalist, clearly Funkhouser has the edge and the momentum . . . Not to mention he is already talking about issues whereas Brooks seems content to make statements about how respectful the next month&#8217;s campaign will be.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://blogkc.com/archives/2007/02/barnes-to-go-all-in/comment-page-1/#comment-148810</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without downtown redevelopment, we would not have a chance to lure in outside tax money to help pay for infrastructure improvements. We would have to pay for them anyway, and still not have a decent downtown. This way, we can have both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without downtown redevelopment, we would not have a chance to lure in outside tax money to help pay for infrastructure improvements. We would have to pay for them anyway, and still not have a decent downtown. This way, we can have both.</p>
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		<title>By: kiki</title>
		<link>http://blogkc.com/archives/2007/02/barnes-to-go-all-in/comment-page-1/#comment-148662</link>
		<dc:creator>kiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 22:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where exactly in my post -- where I said &quot;No, everything’s not perfect, and yes, there are plenty of problems that need to be addressed.&quot; -- did I say that downtown is everything? But downtown was been a blighted eyesore for about 30 years. Now we&#039;re seeing progress there.

If the P&amp;Z district and Sprint Center take off, like most rational people believe they will, then we&#039;re going to see increased revenue. Add light rail which will connect the airport to the convention center to P&amp;Z to Sprint, and suddenly we&#039;re a place that can host major conferences and conventions. Again, increased revenue. And that money can go right into fixing our infrastructure.

Or, we can follow your prescription and keep our tax base exactly where it is and the only way to pay for these capitol improvements will be by raising our taxes more. You know, the same way Mark Funkhouser and the City Council got us to pick up the tab for indigent health care.

You see, I&#039;m not defending the city council or the mayor on anything. I think they&#039;ve gotten some things right and plenty wrong. The same holds for Funkhouser. He&#039;s been part of the system for 18 years, and he shouldn&#039;t be immune from criticism. 

The fact is, we need to get smarter about growth, not abandon it. We need a blueprint for where we want KC to go and direct TIF funding to focus on blighted areas. It&#039;s also probably time to see what downtown can do for itself now that it&#039;s been jump started.

But of course, you&#039;d probably accuse me of defending the status quo, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where exactly in my post &#8212; where I said &#8220;No, everything’s not perfect, and yes, there are plenty of problems that need to be addressed.&#8221; &#8212; did I say that downtown is everything? But downtown was been a blighted eyesore for about 30 years. Now we&#8217;re seeing progress there.</p>
<p>If the P&amp;Z district and Sprint Center take off, like most rational people believe they will, then we&#8217;re going to see increased revenue. Add light rail which will connect the airport to the convention center to P&amp;Z to Sprint, and suddenly we&#8217;re a place that can host major conferences and conventions. Again, increased revenue. And that money can go right into fixing our infrastructure.</p>
<p>Or, we can follow your prescription and keep our tax base exactly where it is and the only way to pay for these capitol improvements will be by raising our taxes more. You know, the same way Mark Funkhouser and the City Council got us to pick up the tab for indigent health care.</p>
<p>You see, I&#8217;m not defending the city council or the mayor on anything. I think they&#8217;ve gotten some things right and plenty wrong. The same holds for Funkhouser. He&#8217;s been part of the system for 18 years, and he shouldn&#8217;t be immune from criticism. </p>
<p>The fact is, we need to get smarter about growth, not abandon it. We need a blueprint for where we want KC to go and direct TIF funding to focus on blighted areas. It&#8217;s also probably time to see what downtown can do for itself now that it&#8217;s been jump started.</p>
<p>But of course, you&#8217;d probably accuse me of defending the status quo, right?</p>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
		<link>http://blogkc.com/archives/2007/02/barnes-to-go-all-in/comment-page-1/#comment-148653</link>
		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 21:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kiki,

Downtown is a small part of Kansas City. While there is a lot more construction downtown, that doesn&#039;t mean &quot;things have gotten better.&quot; Beyond downtown redevelopment, police response times are lenghty, the fire, police and ATA budgets will shrink because of a TIF spending spree, the roads aren&#039;t any better than they were eight years ago, the sewers and storm water systems need to be replaced to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars, the city&#039;s east side continues to deteriorate, the murder rate has cracked the 100 mark for two years now and our schools are still quite a mess.

In short, while we have nice shiny new buildings downtown, there remain lingering problems the current mayor and city council refuse to address. 

I&#039;m not sure why some people can&#039;t see beyond the shiny, empty new buildings and unfulfilled promises in downtown there are some very serious issues the city needs to address before KC becomes &quot;world-class.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kiki,</p>
<p>Downtown is a small part of Kansas City. While there is a lot more construction downtown, that doesn&#8217;t mean &#8220;things have gotten better.&#8221; Beyond downtown redevelopment, police response times are lenghty, the fire, police and ATA budgets will shrink because of a TIF spending spree, the roads aren&#8217;t any better than they were eight years ago, the sewers and storm water systems need to be replaced to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars, the city&#8217;s east side continues to deteriorate, the murder rate has cracked the 100 mark for two years now and our schools are still quite a mess.</p>
<p>In short, while we have nice shiny new buildings downtown, there remain lingering problems the current mayor and city council refuse to address. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure why some people can&#8217;t see beyond the shiny, empty new buildings and unfulfilled promises in downtown there are some very serious issues the city needs to address before KC becomes &#8220;world-class.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: woody</title>
		<link>http://blogkc.com/archives/2007/02/barnes-to-go-all-in/comment-page-1/#comment-148632</link>
		<dc:creator>woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 20:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lifetime KCMO resident. I can assure you that what Johannsen is refering to is correct. The City makes more profit without a major tenant for a lot of reasons. Mostly because it&#039;s a first class facility and more conventions and other events will be booked there via the CVB efforts resulting in the City getting the lion&#039;s share of the revenue&#039;s. The other positive (glass half full) to no major tenant is flexibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lifetime KCMO resident. I can assure you that what Johannsen is refering to is correct. The City makes more profit without a major tenant for a lot of reasons. Mostly because it&#8217;s a first class facility and more conventions and other events will be booked there via the CVB efforts resulting in the City getting the lion&#8217;s share of the revenue&#8217;s. The other positive (glass half full) to no major tenant is flexibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Johannsen</title>
		<link>http://blogkc.com/archives/2007/02/barnes-to-go-all-in/comment-page-1/#comment-148629</link>
		<dc:creator>Johannsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick, I have lived in KCMO my whole life. I have owned a business in KCMO for over 10 years that employs 40 people. Don&#039;t lecture me about &quot;your hometown.&quot;

Sprint Center: Big 12 Tourney, NCAA Tourney, major concerts - that alone is a success.

I&#039;m starting to think Des Moines is too good for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick, I have lived in KCMO my whole life. I have owned a business in KCMO for over 10 years that employs 40 people. Don&#8217;t lecture me about &#8220;your hometown.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sprint Center: Big 12 Tourney, NCAA Tourney, major concerts &#8211; that alone is a success.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m starting to think Des Moines is too good for you.</p>
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		<title>By: kiki</title>
		<link>http://blogkc.com/archives/2007/02/barnes-to-go-all-in/comment-page-1/#comment-148599</link>
		<dc:creator>kiki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick, if there wasn&#039;t a chance the arena wouldn&#039;t pay off then it wouldn&#039;t be taking a risk. It would be a guarantee.

I can&#039;t speak for Johansen, but I do live in the city, own property, pay taxes and I&#039;m proud to call KC home. I just don&#039;t know why it&#039;s so hard for some of you to admit that things have gotten better. 

No, everything&#039;s not perfect, and yes, there are plenty of problems that need to be addressed. But compare downtown to where it was 10 years ago, and you&#039;d have to have your head buried in the sand to deny that we&#039;ve had progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick, if there wasn&#8217;t a chance the arena wouldn&#8217;t pay off then it wouldn&#8217;t be taking a risk. It would be a guarantee.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t speak for Johansen, but I do live in the city, own property, pay taxes and I&#8217;m proud to call KC home. I just don&#8217;t know why it&#8217;s so hard for some of you to admit that things have gotten better. </p>
<p>No, everything&#8217;s not perfect, and yes, there are plenty of problems that need to be addressed. But compare downtown to where it was 10 years ago, and you&#8217;d have to have your head buried in the sand to deny that we&#8217;ve had progress.</p>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
		<link>http://blogkc.com/archives/2007/02/barnes-to-go-all-in/comment-page-1/#comment-148591</link>
		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johansen --

I&#039;m glad you&#039;re able to declare the Sprint Arena a major sucess -- despite it being half built, overbudget and lacking a tenant. The lack of an NBA or NHL team remains an unfulfilled campaign pledge and a lost revenue stream, however. A world-class arena does the city no good if it sits empty.

And while the city is taking risks that &quot;hopefully will pay off&quot; at some undetermined future, the &quot;smart people&quot; have been ignoring essential services -- police service, fire service, mass transit, roads, sewers, storm drains and parks on a massive risky gamble. Few corporations thrive if they ignore their core businesses.

And I happen to play the lottery and know my chances of winning are slim to none. I&#039;m willing to throw out a couple of bucks every couple of weeks, but I&#039;m not willing overdraw on my bank account for quick riches. That is exactly what the city is doing.

And Johansen, I&#039;m delighted in your boosterism of the city. But I suspect you don&#039;t live within city limits, own no property here, or have any real ties to my hometown. Which means you have little to no stake in success or failure of these schemes. I guess it&#039;s easy to gamble with someone else&#039;s money than risk your own, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johansen &#8211;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re able to declare the Sprint Arena a major sucess &#8212; despite it being half built, overbudget and lacking a tenant. The lack of an NBA or NHL team remains an unfulfilled campaign pledge and a lost revenue stream, however. A world-class arena does the city no good if it sits empty.</p>
<p>And while the city is taking risks that &#8220;hopefully will pay off&#8221; at some undetermined future, the &#8220;smart people&#8221; have been ignoring essential services &#8212; police service, fire service, mass transit, roads, sewers, storm drains and parks on a massive risky gamble. Few corporations thrive if they ignore their core businesses.</p>
<p>And I happen to play the lottery and know my chances of winning are slim to none. I&#8217;m willing to throw out a couple of bucks every couple of weeks, but I&#8217;m not willing overdraw on my bank account for quick riches. That is exactly what the city is doing.</p>
<p>And Johansen, I&#8217;m delighted in your boosterism of the city. But I suspect you don&#8217;t live within city limits, own no property here, or have any real ties to my hometown. Which means you have little to no stake in success or failure of these schemes. I guess it&#8217;s easy to gamble with someone else&#8217;s money than risk your own, right?</p>
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