Comments on: Free the TIF audit

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By: renne

renne — Sun, 25 Mar 2007 15:31:59 +0000

Don’t forget, though, that relocations are bad, too. The IRS used to be in the sixth district. They may have brought in new jobs to KC, but that still left a hole in the south part of town. Sometimes there are ramifications to TIF projects that people don’t think about. I’d like to see an audit of the social implications.

By: George-KC

George-KC — Thu, 22 Mar 2007 22:33:36 +0000

The jobs are either jobs created or retained. H&R Block easily could have joined the flood of companies that have fled to Kansas over the years. Downtown has only lost 100,000 jobs the past 35 years. What’s another 1500 or so for H&R Block? The IRS jobs brought in jobs from all over the metro so there actually was new jobs brought to KCMO in addition to jobs retained.

William Rockhill Nelson, the EDC is saying that projections were missed by $87 million. There are a lot of factors that go into that because some TIFs are pay as you go versus some are bonded. If a TIF isn’t meeting projections, it’ll eventually expire and the developer won’t get reimbursed in full for the infrastructure that was approved for that TIF.

The real issue in all this is the TIFs that the city has to subsidize out of the general budget. That’s been about $8.5 million total (or something like that). The good news is that several of the failing TIFs are downtown hotels and with all the new projects downtown (Sprint, Power & Light District, and Convention Center expansion), there’s going to be a lot of new room nights generated so those shortfalls will be reduced if not completely eliminated.

By: Joe Medley

Joe Medley — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:10:22 +0000

All good questions, Mark. I don’t think the TIF law requires the commission to track jobs that already existed because the employer moved from one part of KC to the other. I’ve looked at enough TIF reports to know that the commission certainly doesn’t report them.

I wish PIEA, DESA, and LCRA had reporting requirements like TIF. I suspect that TIF would be at the bottom of our priority list if they did.

By: Mark Forsythe

Mark Forsythe — Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:03:58 +0000

First of all nice work to Business Editor Gene Hanson at the Sun-Tribune for breaking this story.

I for one am anxious to see the TIF Commission’s entire response. Especially the part about the “new” jobs. “The TIF program has created 19,457 jobs,” the commission said. “These jobs are only the jobs that are created by the employers associated with the development.

Are these “new” jobs that never existed in the KC Metro area or are they jobs associated with every TIF plan? Does that number include the H&R Block employees? The IRS employees? Those jobs were NOT created. At least not my definition of “created.”