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	<title>Comments on: Is Kansas ready to go smoke free?</title>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://blogkc.com/archives/2007/08/is-kansas-ready-to-go-smoke-free/comment-page-1/#comment-191916</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neighbors Lounge on 40 highway is allowing smoking and is collecting money to pay the fines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neighbors Lounge on 40 highway is allowing smoking and is collecting money to pay the fines.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://blogkc.com/archives/2007/08/is-kansas-ready-to-go-smoke-free/comment-page-1/#comment-188985</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 14:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Scooter, in case you didn&#039;t notice, Patrick has negative comments about pretty much everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Scooter, in case you didn&#8217;t notice, Patrick has negative comments about pretty much everything.</p>
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		<title>By: ScooterJ</title>
		<link>http://blogkc.com/archives/2007/08/is-kansas-ready-to-go-smoke-free/comment-page-1/#comment-188984</link>
		<dc:creator>ScooterJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Patrick, that Mrs. Tonahill, she&#039;s such a peddler of pornography.    (:rolls eyes:)

The anti-property rights zealots will stoop to any ridiculous claim to get their way,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Patrick, that Mrs. Tonahill, she&#8217;s such a peddler of pornography.    (:rolls eyes:)</p>
<p>The anti-property rights zealots will stoop to any ridiculous claim to get their way,</p>
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		<title>By: ScooterJ</title>
		<link>http://blogkc.com/archives/2007/08/is-kansas-ready-to-go-smoke-free/comment-page-1/#comment-188983</link>
		<dc:creator>ScooterJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Patrick, that Mrs. Tonahill, she&#039;s such a peddler of pornography.    (:rolls eyes:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Patrick, that Mrs. Tonahill, she&#8217;s such a peddler of pornography.    (:rolls eyes:)</p>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
		<link>http://blogkc.com/archives/2007/08/is-kansas-ready-to-go-smoke-free/comment-page-1/#comment-188981</link>
		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ScooterJ,

It&#039;s also a myth that mom-and-pop businesses in Indepedence were thriving prior to a smoking ban. That market can only support so many strip clubs and porn shops.

So beyond the negligible half-hour drive for Lawrence residents, there are &quot;built-in&quot; customer bases for both Independence and Lawrence. Both have smoking bans. One city&#039;s downtown is thriving, another&#039;s is a wasteland. There&#039;s more to it than the smoking ban.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ScooterJ,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also a myth that mom-and-pop businesses in Indepedence were thriving prior to a smoking ban. That market can only support so many strip clubs and porn shops.</p>
<p>So beyond the negligible half-hour drive for Lawrence residents, there are &#8220;built-in&#8221; customer bases for both Independence and Lawrence. Both have smoking bans. One city&#8217;s downtown is thriving, another&#8217;s is a wasteland. There&#8217;s more to it than the smoking ban.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://blogkc.com/archives/2007/08/is-kansas-ready-to-go-smoke-free/comment-page-1/#comment-188980</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You got it right, Scooter.</description>
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		<title>By: ScooterJ</title>
		<link>http://blogkc.com/archives/2007/08/is-kansas-ready-to-go-smoke-free/comment-page-1/#comment-188975</link>
		<dc:creator>ScooterJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick, 120,000 people live in Independence.    They don&#039;t need for you to have to go there, they have their own built in customers.    But when the government of Independence strips the rights of business owners to offer a particular ammenity while compeetitiors right across 40 Hwy in Kansas City still have that ammenity, it&#039;s a no-brainer where those customers are going to go.   They can find a smoking alternativein in some cases, only yards away.

It&#039;s a myth that no Lawrence businesses have been harmed.   However, they do have the added benefits of a built-in customer base of college students, plus mainly the fact that there&#039;s noplace else for residents to go without driving half an hour outside of town in any direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick, 120,000 people live in Independence.    They don&#8217;t need for you to have to go there, they have their own built in customers.    But when the government of Independence strips the rights of business owners to offer a particular ammenity while compeetitiors right across 40 Hwy in Kansas City still have that ammenity, it&#8217;s a no-brainer where those customers are going to go.   They can find a smoking alternativein in some cases, only yards away.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a myth that no Lawrence businesses have been harmed.   However, they do have the added benefits of a built-in customer base of college students, plus mainly the fact that there&#8217;s noplace else for residents to go without driving half an hour outside of town in any direction.</p>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 19:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Look at Independence. Family owned businesses that have thrived for decades are now dropping like flies ...&quot;

I can&#039;t think of a single reason to visit Independence pre- or post-smoking ban, so I doubt that has much to do with it.

That also ignores Lawrence, which also has a government-imposed smoking ban. Last time I was there the restaurants, bars and concert venues on Massuchusetts seemed to be thriving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Look at Independence. Family owned businesses that have thrived for decades are now dropping like flies &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t think of a single reason to visit Independence pre- or post-smoking ban, so I doubt that has much to do with it.</p>
<p>That also ignores Lawrence, which also has a government-imposed smoking ban. Last time I was there the restaurants, bars and concert venues on Massuchusetts seemed to be thriving.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Sep 2007 15:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was really hoping this would go somewhere, but mostly because it is the best hope for getting a real smoking ban in KCMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was really hoping this would go somewhere, but mostly because it is the best hope for getting a real smoking ban in KCMO.</p>
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		<title>By: ScooterJ</title>
		<link>http://blogkc.com/archives/2007/08/is-kansas-ready-to-go-smoke-free/comment-page-1/#comment-188965</link>
		<dc:creator>ScooterJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one has given the free market a chance on this issue.   Smoke-haters just go straight to the government demanding laws rather than voting with their wallets.   Then, when they get the government to give them their way, they continue to not bothering to patronize the establishments they forced to go smoke-free.    

Look at Independence.   Family owned businesses that have thrived for decades are now dropping like flies because nonsmokers forced the issue yet still only go to the bland, sterile, &quot;safe&quot;, national chains that were mostly already smoke-free to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one has given the free market a chance on this issue.   Smoke-haters just go straight to the government demanding laws rather than voting with their wallets.   Then, when they get the government to give them their way, they continue to not bothering to patronize the establishments they forced to go smoke-free.    </p>
<p>Look at Independence.   Family owned businesses that have thrived for decades are now dropping like flies because nonsmokers forced the issue yet still only go to the bland, sterile, &#8220;safe&#8221;, national chains that were mostly already smoke-free to begin with.</p>
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