Comments on: Paying for Light Rail

By: DaveKCMO

DaveKCMO — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:50:41 +0000

the kenosha line is a 1.7-mile downtown circulator that uses vintage rolling stock. i think that says enough.

my numbers come directly from the light rail presentation shown at KCATA public meetings. if traditional streetcars are the chosen alternative, then i’m sure those numbers would drop (but they haven’t yet).

By: locomotivebreath1901

locomotivebreath1901 — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 14:52:31 +0000

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By: Larry T

Larry T — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 07:25:07 +0000

Dave where do you get your facts from.Check out the Kenosha ,Wisconsin line. [more up tp date.See the cost saveings.As you can see the bus system is a dollar cheeper than a bus per passenger trip.The streetcar has a lower cost per passenger mile in Memphis/Tampa/ Seattle over Miami/ Seattle/Jackonville.Streetcar high $3.47/Light Rail $6.47-Monorail $17.85, what more can I say.Because of populaton in Kenosha[which is low] In KC it could do much better.[a city of about 90,000]

By: Tim

Tim — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:44:37 +0000

People will choose mass transit over parking once there’s a rail option. NO bus, regardless of how nice it is, can compete with rail, because the track gives a sense of permanence and if you’ve ridden a train once, it’s not scary because you know where it goes and it can’t deviate from that route. Not so with the constantly rerouted buses, especially in the summer.

By: DaveKCMO

DaveKCMO — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 03:07:50 +0000

actually, operating expenses will be $8-12 million annually in total for the 12-mile route, according to the ATA presentation this week.

By: Larry T

Larry T — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:56:29 +0000

Operating expenses will run about $2 million per mile.

By: luke

luke — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:41:24 +0000

Your assuming the $43m in new taxes over the next 25 years would have come without parking garages. The “but for” needs to be considered.

By: William Rockhill Nelson

William Rockhill Nelson — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:06:05 +0000

I'm not sure about the P&L garages and when they were put on the books. I took the info from the EDC web site and calculated a rough estimate from the numbers on the lower left side. All they say is that the numbers are for fiscal year 2006-2007, which is probably June or July. http://edckc.com/tif/index.htm

By: Mike

Mike — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:00:42 +0000

I completely agree with the idea of moving city subsidies from parking garages to mass transit. People will never use light rail if it’s too easy for people to drive/park their own cars.

By: DaveKCMO

DaveKCMO — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:40:12 +0000

does that include the P+L garages? were those earlier?