Does Sebelius Hate Kansas Food and Drink?

First she dissed Kansas wine.  Now she’s dissing Kansas barbeque.

The Pitch notices that Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius is betting BBQ from a Missouri company in a friendly wager with the North Carolina governor over the KU-UNC basketball game. While Jack Stack does have a lonely Johnson County branch, it was founded and continues to be based in the Martin City neighborhood of Kansas City, Missouri. Does it seem odd to anyone else that she wouldn’t choose a Kansas barbeque joint like the venerable Rosedale Barbeque or the institution that is Oklahoma Joe’s?

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42 Responses to Does Sebelius Hate Kansas Food and Drink?

  1. Ed Roberts says:

    I’d hate to read too much into it. Jack Stack has a mail-order menu. Don’t thing Rosedale or OK Joe’s has one. Easier to send Jack Stack to NC if she needs to (despite the fact that I’d rather do OK Joe’s any day).

  2. Shannon says:

    I usually think of Kansas City as a “shared city” between both Kansas City and Missouri. I’m a Kansas girl, myself, but I’d still brag on Jack Stack to outsiders. Can’t blame Sebelius for that. Now – what I want to see is the Kansas vs. Missouri BBQ smackdown…

  3. Dotte Dude says:

    This is really pretty disgraceful. Sure KC is bistate and all, but if the governor of Kansas is making a bet on behalf of the entire state, then she must choose a genuine Kansas product.

    The wine gaffe was bad enough, but this really adds insult to injury.

  4. vkc says:

    While I usually read this blog for its concise relevant opinion and news, this is a little low brow. Who cares. Can we please stop this idiotic MOKAN competition about every little thing. Yes….blood was spilt 150 years ago…we have competing athletic teams. There is no difference in BBQ on the east or west side of the line.

    Way too petty.

  5. anthony says:

    Sebelius is Kay Barnes but not as b%tchy.

  6. ChrisM70 says:

    I know why Sebelius picked Jackstack…

    It’s because she knew KU wouldn’t lose, so it wouldn’t matter! :)
    Unfortunately, the State of Kansas is now the proud “winner” of crap-tastic Carolina ‘cue.

    Suggestion: Just throw it away and grill up some burgers with some Kansas beef.

  7. Tim says:

    I don’t consider Kansas City, Missouri to be a “shared city” with anything in Kansas. The “Kansas side” is nothing but a parasite of the Missouri city that has the misfortune of that name. If the first word in KCMO’s name wasn’t “Kansas”, we’d have surpassed Minneapolis as a city by now. If we want to get ahead, we should rename KCMO. Now THERE’S an idea for a great ballot initiative.

  8. ChrisM70 says:

    Close-minded thinking like Tim’s are what hold this city down, not the state border.

  9. Tim says:

    Wrong, Chris. It’s the “Kansas side” that chose to segregate. It’s THEIR mayors who decided not to show up at Funkhouser’s ill-fated “transit summit”. It’s THEY who voted not to support bi-state transit because they didn’t want “inner city” types to have easy access to THEIR neighborhoods. THEY are the ones who take the good jobs in THE CITY but can’t wait to flee to their bedroom communities at 5 p.m. It is THEY who suck the money out of THE CITY and then spend it at Wal-Mart, Oak Park Mall and “151st and Blackbob” or wherever.

  10. ChrisM70 says:

    Yep. It’s ALL the fault of the “Kansas side”.

    You blame Kansas for coming over and making Missouri roads suck?
    You blame Kansas for corrupt city government over the past 100 years and a terrible school system?
    You blame Kansas for all those TIFs and the spending of money on renovating stadiums for rich sports owners?

    Plus, it couldn’t also be the fault of MISSOURIANS fleeing THE CITY for the Northland, Lee’s Summit, Independence, etc.?

    Of course not. If something is bad in KCMO do what Tim does:
    BLAME KANSAS.

  11. Tim says:

    Yes, it is their fault. But that’s okay, they’re going to get what’s coming to them.

  12. ChrisM70 says:

    You mean like a NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP???

    KANSAS WINS!!!!

  13. mayor of waldo says:

    Moot point

  14. Tim says:

    Yeah, KANSAS WINS! That’ll matter for, like, a week.

  15. ChrisM70 says:

    Oh no…this National Championship will be an issue for a LONG time.

  16. Tim says:

    Oh yeah, sure…EVERYBODY all over the nation is still talking about it…are you high?

  17. ChrisM70 says:

    Tim,

    You should learn to read more carefully. Your comment only exposes your pre-disposition towards fact-less hyperbole.

    NO ONE said that everyone all over the nation would be talking about this championship for a long time (BTW – I resent your insinuation that I am a substance abuser). The media moves on quite quickly, in fact. But the KU win be talked about here in KC for many years to come.

    Why? Because KU’s Championship gives SOME Missourians just what they want – another reason to hate Kansas.

    I applaud anyone on either side of the state border that can rise above the stupid petty insults and realize that the two states have to work together. KU’s win is good for the city.

  18. Tim says:

    The fact that a basketball trophy will be a big deal for a long time is kind of sad.

  19. ChrisM70 says:

    It’s only sad if YOUR team didn’t win! :)

  20. KSMO says:

    Don’t try to trivialize one of the most beautiful championship games in the history of college sports. Your snide remarks only reveal the bitterness and pettyness that most torment you daily. I truly feel sorry for you Tim. Cheer up man, and just enjoy the attention this brings to Kansas, Missouri, and the KC metro area.

    Also I’m sure the millions of people around the world that tuned into the NCAA tournament didn’t think that this was just some trophy.

  21. Tim says:

    No, it’s sad that it’s all Kansas has. Except strip malls, Applebee’s and people who don’t know what a pedestrian, a turn signal or parallel parking are. Their idea of “normal” living involves getting in an SUV and getting on a highway to go to a grocery store, driving 30 miles to work, and recycling nothing.

  22. KSMO says:

    ROCK CHALK JAYYYHAWK KKKKUUUUUUUU!!! wooooo!

  23. KSMO says:

    I’m a Kansan that lives in Midtown, yeah it is really obvious that Missouri is the mecca of green living. Yeah, KS isn’t perfect, but don’t blame all of your troubles on suburbanites. Blame it on the inefficienies of the local city government.

    Also, to the original post about BBQ..Im quite sure that the BBQ doesn’t suddenly change in quality as one crosses state line. KC BBQ is KC BBQ, more of a regional thing, than a strict state to state difference.

  24. Tim says:

    Applebee’s “CURBSIDE TO GO”…custom-made for Kansas. What? Actually GET OUT OF THE SUV for food? Why would anyone do that?

  25. KSMO says:

    Same concept as a drive thru-what’s so bad about that?

  26. KSMO says:

    people wanting to save time and bring dinner home to eat with their families. Wow, poposterous!!

  27. Tim says:

    Just where does this KC “Metro area” concept end? A friend of mine drove to LaCygne, and there were streetsigns for 437th street…dear God…

  28. KSMO says:

    Does it really matter that there is an exact line where the KC metro area ends? The point of that post was that the attention received from the KU national championship win is nothing but positive.

  29. Tim says:

    Yes, and it is a win by a school out in Kansas that has nothing to do with Kansas City.

  30. ChrisM70 says:

    Hey Tim:

    You might not know this, but there is a hospital run by
    “that school out in Kansas that has nothing to do with Kansas City”
    in the metro area? They call it the KU Med Center.

    You CAN’T spell Kansas City without KANSAS.

  31. KSMO says:

    It is positive for the “Kansas” name, and since the Kansas name is a part of Kansas City, the city will thus share in the success.

    Also if you took a stroll around downtown during tourney time, you will see that KU has a lot to do with Kansas City. Open your eyes. KC is a huge town for KU alums, deal with it. Let me guess you are a Penn Valley CC alum?

  32. Tim says:

    Nope,not an alum of any “KC metro area” school…just a resident who feels the name “Kansas City” holds us back by association with fatass Kansas…the skinny athletes of KU are not representitive of Kansas, much less much more pedestrian and active KCMO.

  33. ChrisM70 says:

    Hey, look at this Timmy…

    http://calorielab.com/news/2007/08/06/fattest-states-2007/

    Perhaps YOU are the one that needs to put down the Twinkie? :)

  34. Tim says:

    It’s St. Louis that has White Castle and Jack in the Box, and outstate (rural) Missouri, which is much more populated than (rural) Kansas probably is pretty cornfed. And KU having a hospital suspiciously close to the state line (translation: large “customer” base) has nothing to do with their basketball program. It’s just a business arm. No different than if Illinois prevailed and we said “We won! We have McDonald’s here!”

  35. Tim says:

    I also wonder about how you consider a sports team’s victory a “personal” win…were you on the team? It’s rather mystifying that “we won” seems to be the chant of so many from Kansas…um…there are other schools in Kansas, and I noticed at least one of them lost…

  36. ChrisM70 says:

    Wow Tim, you are really are grasping at straws.

    Perhaps KU’s hospital is “suspiciously” close to the state line because the caring and compassionate staff wants to take care of the health of ALL who live in the Kansas City Metro area, regardless of which side of the state line they live on. In other words, they aren’t as selfish as you.

    Secondly, why wouldn’t you put a hospital next to where all the fat people live? (see my previous post)

    As for KU’s victory being a personal victory, those of us who live in Kansas think of ourselves as one big family and when Kansas University wins, we all win. I guess you don’t have that kind of close relationship with the state you live in, do you Tim?

    My sympathies.

  37. Tim says:

    “Caring and compassionate staff”…haha. They botched my ankle surgery, and all of the doctors were typical self-indulged pricks. The main nurse (Shannon) rocked, and the x-ray tech was nice. They never even taught me how to walk with crutches, resulting in numerous falls (includung one in the emergency room!)…so much for caring and compassionate. When that happens to you, come back and tell me they’re not in it for the $$$$$. They advertise on TV for crying out loud, do you have any idea how expensive that is? BTW, I didn’t choose them, it’s just where the ambulance took me.

  38. Tim says:

    AND people did not leave KCMO because it deteriorated…it deteriorated because of the suburban sprawl. You can only have a vibrant downtown if there are people to support it, for example. Keep spreading the population over a wide “metro area” and all it does is create waste. It’s culturally and environmentally irresposible. KC should do what Minneapolis did. When it started to over-sprawl, the city told the “new” suburbs: “We’re not going to build you power grids or run water and sewer lines to you. You’ll have to get by with septic tanks and generators.” THE FACT IS: Resources are becoming scarcer and more expensive. People can’t keep living like it’s 1965. We HAVE to rebuild our cities and build them UP not OUT. THAT is “community” the “subdivision” is not. MORE travel, not LESS, needs to be by foot, bike, bus and rail. WHAT there is is ALL there is. When a bunch of idiots use a gallon of gas each way to work and it affects everyone’s grocery bill, people should be pissed. Times are getting tough, and everytime you see an ad on TV for a suburban development like “Quail Creek” it should remind you that it’s not only unnecessary, wasteful and irresponsible, but it encourages thinning out our city and it evaporates (in MANY ways) resources we can never get back. There’s no excuse for it.

  39. ChrisM70 says:

    Suburban sprawl wasn’t created by Kansas. I was a nationwide trend throughout the 60′s through the 90′s in EVERY CITY.

    And here’s a newsflash: LOTS of suburban sprawl is inside of Missouri! Kansas just offered better places to live and people responded. That’s how it worked, and boo-hooing about the past isn’t going to change it.

    Only having city governments working together will make the metro better – not ad hominem insults based on crazy long-held predjudice. Want to change things? Get out and let your representatives know that you want a light-rail system in Kansas City – NOW.

    Also: I would like to let you know that KU Med Center back in the 70s SAVED MY LIFE. I was brought in as a young child and had early open-heart surgery. This was risky, and rare at the time, but they did an excellent job, and took very good care of me, including all of my follow-up visits over the years.

    If you want to bitch about the state of healthcare, it’s more about the incompetence of the insurance industry, the greed of the pharmaceutical giants and the stupidity of our President and his administration.

    You’ll have to vote out these idiot Republicans if you want a change in our healthcare system – people like MO Governor Matt Blunt.

  40. Tim says:

    I’m glad they saved your life, but they put a big dent in mine. The health care system was a lot different in the 70s than now. I know Kansas didn’t start sprawl, they just seem especially proud of the wasteful lifestyle. The prices at the pump and supermarket (for starters) are indicators of our energy situation (not to mention war, but I won’t go there, except to say that blood for oil ain’t worth it especially if people don’t treat either one like the precious resource they are). And I do EVERYTHING I can to get the Republicans voted out. Everyone will rue the day we allowed the sprawl to get so out-of-hand. It continues to waste uncalculable amounts of resources that are costing people their very lives. Higher population density = more efficient services (electricity, water, sewer, trash removal, street and curb repair, fire and police, etc) instead of spreading them out which equals higher cost per capita. And these “better places to live”? In what way? For how long? It was a tempting concept in the age of cheap, abundant energy. But that era is coming to a screeching halt…fossil fuels are becoming too expensive in too many ways to continue that oblivious lifestyle. We’ll either turn back to being a part of real communities, or some of us will wait until it’s an emergency and no longer a choice. Trust me, the CITY isn’t as scary as it looks on the news, and the positive interactions with real neighbors have far outweighed the negative. HUNDREDS of miles of power lines, highways/streets/sidewalks/curbs, water and sewer lines, etc. ARE a drain on budgets and the suburban residents couldn’t afford these if they actually paid their share of what these really cost based on population density. I’m not trying to fight with you, but there are many, many “incidental” costs associated with sprawl that affect people who aren’t even guilty of doing it. And I realize it isn’t JUST Kansas, but that was the topic of the thread; and the Kansas suburbanites seem to “brag” about Johnson county as if it put them in a higher class, which is such a joke when the most beautiful homes I’ve seen in the “metro area” are right here in my neighborhood (although I’ll be the first to admit I don’t live in one of them).

  41. Ryan says:

    I love how KCPL and MGE advertise on TV! As if we could choose a different utility company…!?!? Then they apply for a rate increase…Ummmm, how much did the advertisement cost? Absolutely ridiculous!

  42. John says:

    This discussion is ludicrous. Johnson County and KCMO are both tedious wastelands, with little to differentiate between them. Even the stripmalls in Johnson County are boring, and the Oak Park Mall – the premier regional mall in the KC metro! – has huge potholes in the parking lot. There is absolutely nothing to see or do in the metro area (aside from fixate on imaginary differences) and the weather is bipolar. Kansas and Missouri are both backwards. People lack curiosity and most of them have never lived outside the area, although it is seriously one of the worst parts of the country. I regret moving here, and will soon be leaving. Ugh!