Comments on: The gift that keeps on giving

By: James

James — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:18:05 +0000

Actually, your claim that the dress code is “racist” is itself a racist comment because it presupposes that all and only the members of a particular ethnic group dress a certain way (i.e. all black people where big baggy white t-shirts and sag their pants).

I’m a white guy, and I’m sure if I tried to enter the P&L District the other night wearing a plain white t-shirt the security guy (who was black, by the way) would have turned me away. So please spare us your lame and unintelligent accusations of racism.

By: Tim

Tim — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 20:50:33 +0000

It’s much easier to turn potential troublemakers away than to force them out. It’s a public safety issue.

By: bob berdella

bob berdella — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:16:32 +0000

Who’s talking about house parties? We’re talkign about an entertainment district that is supposed to be for everyone.

By: Tim

Tim — Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:22:33 +0000

Sorry, obvious douchebag troublemakers don’t make the cut…I highly doubt that those rejected are “honest taxpayers”…are YOU willing to have them redirected to YOUR house to party instead?

By: bob berdella

bob berdella — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 20:00:46 +0000

“Instinct”?
HAHAHAHA

Listen, whether or not you think people are thugs based on their attire doesn’t matter. If you pay taxes, you should be allowed access into KCPL because you helped pay for it.

The only requirement for getting into KCPL should be your IRS refund stub.

By: Tim

Tim — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:59:42 +0000

Most security people have an instinct for who is out for the right reasons. Just because the people who were denied access weren’t white doesn’t automatically make the security force racist.

By: MD in KC

MD in KC — Mon, 23 Jun 2008 00:07:37 +0000

The problem isn’t the dress code; it’s the fact that it isn’t being enforced fairly and evenly that is causing most of the problems.

I’ve visited P&L repeatedly since it opened. I can’t give you exact numbers, but it’s a minimum of 1-2 times per week for the past two months — sometimes to walk around and have a beer, other times to watch a ballgame. Sometimes, I’ve walked in with rather long cargo shorts; other times, a plain white T-shirt underneath an untucked button-down shirt; other times, wearing a baseball jersey or football jersey. I haven’t been denied access; at worst, the goon in front of the place has looked me over once or twice and then waved me through. At the same time, I’ve seen people with similar attire (if not people dressed better than myself) either given an extremely hard time or refused service altogether.

I’m 26 and white. The people who I’ve seen being refused service are, judging by their looks, in the same age range … and they’re NOT white — none of them. When that’s happened, I’ve asked for my bill, paid and left without giving a tip, and I’ve explained to the server and/or host that I won’t give my business to a place that doesn’t treat people fairly. I’ve encountered this at Tengo Sed, Vinino, McFadden’s and Lucky Strike. I haven’t had this occur at Ted’s, Biersch or Raglan Road. Those three places will get my money. The first four won’t.

Like I said, it’s not the dress code itself that’s racist. It’s the racist a-holes masquerading as “security guards” who like to act as judge and jury that make it a problem.

By: Tim

Tim — Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:44:57 +0000

Last time I checked, anyone can buy a white t-shirt. How can a dress code be racist? Dress with a little class or stay away. And if you do come, spend some money, that’s why it’s called a BUSINESS.

By: Esteban

Esteban — Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:56:51 +0000

It might be a racist dress code, but so what? It will keep P&L from turning into Deathport for a while. If I want to get shot or raped, Westport is it. If I want to have a good time away from ghetto d-bags, P&L.

By: Drew Murphy

Drew Murphy — Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:08:25 +0000

“Cordish and P&L is taking this city to the cleaners and will likely close several local businesses”

Pluuzzzeeeh. They are a BUSINESS and are supposed to make MONEY. This is not Bolivia (yet). If any businesses close, it’s because THEY failed.

This story made me so mad in the Star today. If the rule isn’t being enforced totally, then that’s wrong and a seperate issue. But all these people who will run for Mayor (“Airline Friendly” Reilly, “Let’s Bulldoze East Plaza” Gottstein”) are crying racism. The rules themselves are fine. It’s a PRIVATE place not a post office or city hall. What about the hip hop clubs in the city that enforce the same rules???